Hi
Did everyone get this too?
James
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 16:31:03 +0200
From: Rafa? <rafkup(a)gmail.com>
Hi.
I am writing to you in the name of all BetaComp Team members, because
we're thinking, that you are the best from the best. We make new
operating system firstly based on ReactOS <http://www.reactos.com
<http://www.reactos.com/>> (the part of you work on ReactOS or did it in
the past). Why base on ReactOS? The answer is very simple. HostiliX
(this is a name of our OS) is compatible with Windows(R) and ReactOS is
compatible with Microsoft(C) product too, so we based HostiliX on
ReactOS, because we don't want to waste our time to do something what is
already done. Now suggest next question: Why are we doing Windows(R)
clone? We are not making a Windows clone! Just most hardware
manufacturers do drivers only for Windows(R), so we want to HostiliX be
able to use it. We don't have time to do drivers! The same situation is
with Windows applications. Most users need Windows(R) software. We want
to permit them to use free operating system and them's favourite
software. But running Windows software isn't our priority!
We want to make new, fast, stable and secure operating system. It will
have its' own SubSystem using CygWin, or CygWin clone, so it will run
modified Linux applications. POSIX SubSystem must be modified of course.
There won't be root directory (/). All ported from Linux to HostiliX
software will use drive letters like A:, C:, (...). The will be also
OS/2(R) and DOS(R) SubSystems.
FAQ:
Q: How want we to do drive letters in ported from Linux software?
A: We want to modify libraries like GTK and QT (dialog windows) and add
into it drive litters support. PosiX Layer will modify all slashes to
backslash and if any program want to access / directory PosiX Layer will
translate it to for example C:\HostiliX\System32\Posix where will be
usr, bin, sbin and folders. Directory structure of Posix dir will be
compatible with Unix directory structure. All drive letters will have
shortcuts (will be mounted) somewhere in this directory. Using modified
open/save/etc dialog windows user will feel that he uses any Windows
application.
Q: What's our pririty?
A: Make HostiliX stable fast and secure with all features like logging
in/out, switching user, shutting down system (power off, reboot and
hibernate).
Q: Will be hibernate just a hibernate? :P
A: No! When system call hibernate process it will close all network
connections and then unload drivers to all network hardware. Then will
hibernate computer. After user power on computer again HostiliX will
boot up from hibernation and then loads again unloaded before
hibernation process drivers. What it adds? Let's imagine that you have
Sagem Fast 800 ADSL Modem Connected to USB. When you power off your
computer, driver will load, but modem will be unsynchronised with line.
HostiliX will load this driver again, synchronise modem and connect to
Internet again.
Q: Why don't we help ReactOS Team?
A: There's a few reasons. First: We don't want to do Windows clone.
HostiliX will be only able to load Windows(R) drivers and run Windows(R)
software, when we will do more and repair existing I/O Functions.
Second: Windows software compatibility isn't our priority! Third: We
don't like ReactOS Team policy. They're doing anything like this in
Windows(R). They even cloned Explorer. We only want to compatible with
Windows(R) startup, shutdown (without hibernate), login processes. But
it won't looks like Windows. HostiliX will have its' own GUI (it's GDI +
XOrg with theming support).
If you have any other questions to us, if something isn't clear, please
write to me. I'll reply and answer to all your questions!
Why I write to you? Because we (BetaComp Team) think, that you're the
best from the best. We need more people to write really good OS. If you
have free time and want to make really great Operating System for home
and business please help us! Please reply.
I look forward to hearing from you.
Yours faithfully,
Rafal Kupiec
BetaComp Team
The website went down last night after a log file reached 2Gb. This resulted
in Apache processes being killed and restarted, which in turn led to heavy
trashing.
Everything should be back to normal now.
Ge van Geldorp.
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Hi All,
We have now reached our goal of $500 to file the paperwork to register the Trademark name and logo
of ReactOS in the state of South Carolina. The next step will be filing for the entire US which I
have to go to another lawyer on. I expect to do the federal paperwork, it will cost us about the
same but I don't know when that will happen so if you were just going to make a donation for the
Trademark stuff you can hold off. If anyone in the user community would like to make donations to
support general development causes let me know and I can start allocating funds for bounties. On
another note I have opened up a bank account for the foundation so if you don't want to use paypal
but you want to make a donation contact me and I can provide routing information.
Thanks to everyone that has helped with this! Even if you are not able to write code, your
donations, testing, translation, promotion and artwork for ReactOS help the project!
-Steven
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Hi all
The coordinator of the UI team will be mf by popular vote,
congratulations mf! Thanks to Mikko for coming up with the idea to
have a UI team.
I'll go about setting up a ros-ui mailing list. The first order of
business for the UI team is finalizing a new look for the reactos.com
site.
Regards
Jason
Hi,
--- Jason Filby <jason.filby(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> We need to vote on the UI Coordinator Vote. This will take 2 weeks
> according to our voting rules and only committers may participate. If
> you're not listed as a committer but participate in the project in an
> important way (testing/web work) then talk to an existing committer to
> get a recommendation.
I don't know who all has names in the race but my vote would be for Fireball. He has done quite a
lot of work helping on translation and international issues in ReactOS and I think with the
Russian Translation of the website and been helping others to translate ReactOS in to thier native
language.
Thanks
Steven
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From: Jason Filby <jason.filby(a)gmail.com>
Date: May 24, 2005 8:50 PM
Subject: Fwd: Status update and voting
To: ReactOS Development List <ros-dev(a)reactos.com>
Hi all
Vizzini has officially stepped down from the kernel coordinator
position. It's a pity that legalities and the nature of his business
have put him in this position. I've expressed our thanks for his input
and contributions to the project to Vizzini.
The kernel coordinator position will be up for vote for nominiated
candidates. This will only happen after the UI team has settled.
In case you're wondering, the project coordinator position, which I've
been sitting on for around 7/8 years now, will also be up for vote in
the near future. This will only happen once we've nailed down a
constitution for the project (and no, I'm not leaving the project,
just opening things up).
Regards
Jason
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From: Vizzini <vizzini(a)plasmic.com>
Date: May 24, 2005 4:32 AM
Subject: Status update
To: Jason Filby <jason.filby(a)gmail.com>
Cc: Ge van Geldorp <gvg(a)reactos.com>, ch(a)csh-consult.dk
Jason,
Due to a few unfortunate legal changes related to work that I can't
really avoid, I'm going to have to officially step down as the kernel
coordinator. I haven't had any time to work on the project lately
anyway, so it's probably better to just make it official. I've had a
blast working with you guys over the past couple of years, and I hope
to be able to contribute again some day.
I'll try to keep an eye on things in case there are questions that I
am needed for, but that doesn't seem to be happening too often.
Thanks again for letting me participate in the project. I'm sorry I
haven't been able to contribute more lately, and I wish I didn't have
to jump off the train completely, but such is life.
Thanks!
-Vizzini
>Alex Ionescu wrote:
>>Mike Nordell wrote:
>>After exchanging words with them both on IRC now, my vote is for mf.
>>
>In all fairness, you talked with Mikko for 5 minutes as he was preparing
>to sleep ;)
Indeed. Now, after few hours of sleep, I'm still hardly the sharpest
tool in a shed but at least my thoughts can run straight line...
I forgot to mention something.. Approachability.
Now I want you to think of regular user who uses his windows machine
at work for e-mail and Word -writings.. Now, give him two computers,
both have exactly same OS (say ROS) but with different approach for
GUI (one that looks like windows and another one which kinda looks
like windows but still looks like something else and somewhat acts
like windows)... Now, which one do you think he/she is going to go
for? To the windows look-alike. But why? Because it has higher
approachability.
I've seen this happen thousand times. People are afraid of anything
new and sometimes even refuse to learn anything new if it is
_absolutely_ necessary (i.e. if the old means are still usable even
though not nearly as efficent as the new ones). Even though I'd love
nothing more than to design fully new and revolutional concept for UI
it is simply not efficent in this case IF ReactOS aims to be "another
windows".
The reason why I am driving this "another windows" concept is that it
is basically the very mind and soul of ROS. The ultimate goal is to be
100% Windows compatible, but if the UI isn't Windows like the users
will see it not as "another windows" but as "another OS" which then
makes ROS to lose it's desired market value. (as windows compatible
OS) If the user can't clearly distinct the fact that it really is
"another windows" how can you expect him to realize that ROS really is
100% windows compatible AND you can run all your regular Windows
software on it? Put a tag line on the boot screen? Not going to work,
nor will the same line work on web-page, because regular users usually
won't change their working OS by downloading and burning another one
from internet but by observation. They will see someone else use it,
maybe even try it themselves, perhaps think that they are using
Windows but then realize that while they are doing everything they
needed to do they are doing it it completely new environment. Of
course to achieve this there has to be distinct clues that you are not
in your regular Windows but also it has to look like Windows at the
first glance.
If it does look like Windows regular users will expect it to work like
Windows (hence they can immediately start using it) and they will most
likely will expect to run the same software because it looks and feels
like Windows.
-mikko