Ros-general February 2004

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Re: [ros-general] unacceptable behavior in the forums--we may need aforum moderator
by rené Tournois 25 Feb '04

25 Feb '04

At 08:43 23/02/2004 +0100, you wrote: >On Sun, Feb 22, 2004 at 10:41:23PM -0800, Wierd Wierd wrote: >> I was cruising the forums a little bit ago, and came >> across some rather unpleasant postings by some of our >> users. It would be in our best interests to clean >> them up promptly, as their disrespect to people with >> honest questions reflects poorly on our developers, >> and the project as a whole. >> >> There may be more, but I found the derogatory postings >> in the 'Please...' thread, and the "Blue screen of >> death" thread. >> >> I hope this is an isolated incident, but if it keeps >> up, we may have to have a dedicated forum moderator to >> keep things civil in there. Some people just dont >> know how to be nice to each other. > >Then you'll get endless debates over where moderators should draw the >line. Personally i don't like censorship, and i think only exceptionally >disrupting postings (like the one concerning Betov, and the one which >links to the source code) should be removed. It might however be better >if we'd require a login... Though on my own RosAsm Board, i am in favour of a "zero sensorship" rule, for a Board like ReactOS one, keeping completely free from war threads is a must. There is no limit to what the Anti-Gpl guys are able to do. Also, forcing to registration would be much more frustrating, IMHO, than deleting offending and WW3 threads. Betov.

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Is really the whole ReactOS GPL? Then its a problem.
by theUser BL 24 Feb '04

24 Feb '04

Hi! In your forum existing a question without any answer: http://www.reactos.com/content/view/full/1493 And I wonder. Is the complete ReactOS under the GPL? On the main-side of the homepage there stand: >License >ReactOS is licensed under the GNU General Public License. But if really the complete ReactOS is under the GPL (and without an special exception like in the GNU Classpath project http://www.gnu.org/software/classpath/license.html). The problem of the GPL is, that you can't link GPL-incompatible programs (that are the most of the Windows-programs) with GPL libraries. In the FAQ there stand nothing about this. But I have seen, that you have discussed this at http://reactos.com:8080/archives/public/ros-general/2004-February/000703.ht… But it seems, that you are still happy with the GPL. Have a look at Linux. The primary widget-toolkits are GTK+ and Qt. GTK+ is licensed under the LGPL, thats ok. But Qt is licensed under the GPL (and QPL) for free. And there existing a third license for commercial use. If you want to create a closed-source library, which linked to Qt, you need the commercial license of the Qt, because you can only link to GPL-libraries, if your program is GPL-compatible. I think, that ReactOS needs more to be LGPL, then GNU/Linux. All modules for the Linux-kernel and all drivers are GPL. And they _must_ be GPL, because the kernel is GPL. But you want to use with ReactOS closed-source drivers. So your ReactOS-kernel can not be GPL or it is not legal to use all the MS-Windows-drivers for ReactOS. The problem is not only, to run programs on ReactOS. I think, it would be nice, if it is possible, to create GPL-incompatible programs/libraries/drivers on ReactOS without using MS-Windows. I see a very big problem in the use of the GPL in ReactOS. Do you have contacted the FreeSoftwareFoundation or Richard Stallman, what they think about the legallity of using proprietary programs/libraries/drivers with an ReactOS, which is completly under the GPL? Greatings theuserbl _________________________________________________________________ E-Mails sind Ihnen nicht schnell genug? http://www.msn.de/messenger MSN Messenger - Kommunikation in Echtzeit

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[ros-translation] Language Coordinators
by Aleksey Bragin 24 Feb '04

24 Feb '04

Hello, we need to establish a list of Language Coordinators, since we're actually starting to do the translation of the web site. And using this case I'm testing the ros-translation list. I'm sending a copy of this email to ros-general list, but this is the one and only time I do this, since some people haven't subscribed to ros-translation yet. Please reply/discuss only in ros-translation, not ros-general, about translation topics. As for now, we have: Dutch (dut) - Mark IJbema German (ger) - ? Thomas, you have time? Or maybe someone else better, since you're quite busy with coding? Italian (ita) - ? Russian (rus) - me for now, but someone else later French (fre) - ? Spanish (spa) - ? That's languages we have at least two people on them. With the best regards, Aleksey Bragin.

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[ros-translation] Language Coordinators
by Joerg Abderhalden 24 Feb '04

24 Feb '04

Hi Sorry for posting in ros-general, but i recieved a "user unknown" for ros-translation(a)reactos.com. I could offer my help for german. What does language coordinator has to do? What skills are required? I have never done it before, so some guidance would be fine (at least for the start). Greets Joerg Aleksey Bragin wrote: Hello, we need to establish a list of Language Coordinators, since we're actually starting to do the translation of the web site. And using this case I'm testing the ros-translation list. I'm sending a copy of this email to ros-general list, but this is the one and only time I do this, since some people haven't subscribed to ros-translation yet. Please reply/discuss only in ros-translation, not ros-general, about translation topics. As for now, we have: Dutch (dut) - Mark IJbema German (ger) - ? Thomas, you have time? Or maybe someone else better, since you're quite busy with coding? Italian (ita) - ? Russian (rus) - me for now, but someone else later French (fre) - ? Spanish (spa) - ? That's languages we have at least two people on them. With the best regards, Aleksey Bragin. _______________________________________________ ros-general mailing list ros-general(a)reactos.com http://reactos.com/mailman/listinfo/ros-general

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floppy recognition
by jh 24 Feb '04

24 Feb '04

Hi, Should ros recognize floppy drives or is it broken, because ros does not find my floppy drive. Regards, jh

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Re: [ros-general] Is really the whole ReactOS GPL? Then its a problem.
by theUser BL 24 Feb '04

24 Feb '04

>This situation is a bit different, because the closed-source library >*strictly needs* the Qt and can't function properly without it. ReactOS on >the other hand doesn't require these 3rd party drivers and links to them >dynamicly. But the Windows-programs *strictly needs* libraries, which draw the windows, the widgets, etc. And _this_ libraries are in ReactOS GPL. And don't forget, that there existing people, who want to develop on ReactOS GPL-incompatible Windows/ReactOS-programs. >Also this issue was already discussed (see the ros-general mailing list >archives) even with Richard Stallman's comments. I have searched the archive at http://reactos.com:8080/archives/public/ros-general/ The archive have been started on October 2003. And in the complete archive I have not found anything about this subject. Only in http://reactos.com:8080/archives/public/ros-general/2003-October/000022.html and http://reactos.com:8080/archives/public/ros-general/2004-February/000706.ht… the GPL is discussed. But there is nowhere a comment by Richard Stallman. And your small FAQ (the one for user and the one for developer) don't says anything about this. The only think, what I can do, is looking if on one of the older sides of ReactOS, is a older Mailinglist published, where the answer of my question stand: http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.reactos.com http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.reactos.org Greating theuserbl _________________________________________________________________ MSN Messenger - sehen, welche Freunde online sind! http://www.msn.de/messenger Jetzt kostenlos downloaden und mitmachen!

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ROSapps
by James Marjie 24 Feb '04

24 Feb '04

I was looking over the rosapps cvs branch and was wondering. Shouldn't most of the applications be build able standalone? James Marjie

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ROS .21 rc1 release
by Al Hartman 23 Feb '04

23 Feb '04

Any news on this? I'm curious more to read about what the changes were than anything else. I think the progress has been spectacular. Thanks!! Al

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Re[2]: [ros-general] Booting problem: ROS hangs up after disks check
by Kyryll A Mirnenko 23 Feb '04

23 Feb '04

j> You must start ros from protected mode if you are running windows. j> I run win95 and just before windows starts (as soon as I see ' starting win95 ' ) I have to press the F8 key and then select safe mode with command prompt (7). I think it is the ctrl key and not j> the F8 key in win98. I've started it from CLEAN DOS (WinME boot floppy), that was real mode under real DOS. j> Running ros for the first time is like running windows for the first time, you have to reboot again before you can use it. Was that normal it hung up in a blue sceen after D: drive check? There were no messages, after hardware reboot everything was the same - hanging up after last FAT32 drive check. As I said, I've got UFS (FreeBSD) partition after that last drive it checks & hangs up, my version is that it's confused by it. Another version is DMA-less harddisk (although ATAPI v4) Hope, somebody'll help, mirya

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German LinuxWorld Frankfurt 2004
by Jason Filby 23 Feb '04

23 Feb '04

Hi all We've been invited to the German LinuxWorld Frankfurt 2004. Is anyone interested in setting up a ReactOS booth during the conference to represent us? It would be great if we had a team of people manning the booth. The expo takes place Oct 26-28 - ReactOS should be quite impressive to demo by that time. http://www.linuxworldexpo.de/ Cheers Jason __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want. http://antispam.yahoo.com/tools

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