Ros-general February 2004

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internationalization
by Robert Köpferl 17 Feb '04

17 Feb '04

What's happened to our i18n-idea concerning ROS. AFAIK we wanted to not just to localize ROS but to make it multilanguage just like bsd, too. Changing a variable makes programs change their language. This is not foreseen in windows. Is there any API yet?

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Ok guys...
by Richard Campbell 17 Feb '04

17 Feb '04

Ok, after my slight anger on IRC, i've decided to write a constructive email and post it here. Please note this is my opinion, though others may agree with me. First of all, Martin, let me say i have the utmost respect for you and your work. However, it has come to my attention that the explorer clone is starting to become a mess. It has too many 'features' built in. The compaints i have are: 1) Too many 'ways' to browse a users computer. You have all those buttons at the toolbar, why not just make those features into shell extensions or at the very LEAST compiletime options. Explorer needs only 1 way to browse directories/files. (Which should be whichever way that closely resembles microsoft's windows, and by all means winefile and explorer should be seperate applications.) Among the features that need to go are: The web support, Registry browser, NT Object File System or whatever the hell it's called, The 'shell browser' or whatever it is, The little bar above the Status bar should go. The Interface shouldn't be MDI, as microsoft's is not. 2) The toolbar has nothing useful. The windows explorer toolbar has back, forward, and up buttons for example, to browse the users computer. Our explorer has none of these. 3) The web support needs to go. I don't know what all was done, but web support causes alot of potential vulnerabilities. Just look at microsoft's windows, and even IF it didn't, loading IE/mozilla every time explorer starts is a WASTE. Normally i'd stand back, work on my own explorer clone, but this IS ReactOS, our goal is to clone windows, we need to keep our UI as consistent as possible with microsoft's. If you sit down a user in front of our current explorer, he/she would be most definitely lost. While i would say hide the features, they'd still be there, increasing application size, code complexity, memory requirements, dependencies, and slowing the app down, and this isn't an ideal solution. Solution: I really think we should clone the Windows NT 4.0 explorer, with quicklaunch, but nothing more. Make everything else addins or compiletime options. The interface really should be more similar to the windows version of explorer, with nothing new to confuse users, etc. This will make explorer less buggy and faster, it will also consume less RAM. Currently explorer is even slower then microsoft's own explorer. Granted it is an alpha version, but still, these 'new features' are still getting injected every once and a while, making things even worse, when time/energy would be better spent working on shell32 or fixing bugs/optimizing explorer and code cleanup. Don't get me wrong, i think explorer is great, it's a marvelous piece of work. And my opinion is one of many, but keep in mind i'm not speaking for the supergeeks here, i'm speaking for the power users and regular users, the customer support reps and myself. Take care, and please don't flame me, martin, or anyone else. Richard.

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Article about ReactOS by Mario Sixtus
by Aliberti Emanuele 16 Feb '04

16 Feb '04

http://www.fr-aktuell.de/ressorts/wissen/netzwerk/?cnt=388661 (in German: can somebody provide a translation? thank you) ea

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font anitaliasing ideas
by George Edward Purdy 16 Feb '04

16 Feb '04

What about internally rendering it at double the pixel dimension, then applying bicubic resampling before screen render? How about an OpenGL solution for hardware antialiasing support? Just a couple of ideas.

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Re: [ros-general] Ok guys...
by Jason Filby 16 Feb '04

16 Feb '04

Martin Fuchs wrote: >I prefer MDI like in WINFILE, as it reduces the number of windows you > >have to manage on your desktop. It packages them into one common > >frame window, so you don't need an extra app window for any open folder > > I think that tabs, as in Mozilla, is a better solution. Cheers Jason __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html

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Sub-pixel rendering coup
by George Edward Purdy 15 Feb '04

15 Feb '04

The one thing a lot of people I know who use Windows 2000 have talked about that tempted them to switch to Windows XP despite the bloat is ClearType subpixel rendering technology, an alternate to simple font smoothing introduced in Windows 95. If ReactOS can offer superior subpixel rendering of fonts (ala Photoshop or better) I could see it seriously competing.

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WinAPI in baresh
by Semyon Novikov 15 Feb '04

15 Feb '04

Dear programmers! :) Please answer at this maybe stupid question! Should I use WinAPI for the "baresh" programming? -- Best regards, .tappak

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Re: [ros-general] Ok guys...
by Rex Jolliff 15 Feb '04

15 Feb '04

At 12:00 PM 2/15/2004 -0500, you wrote: >On Sun, 15 Feb 2004, Martin Fuchs wrote: > > > last week ;-) But that's the only point. > > To attract more users we have to present them more features/functionality/ > > usability than Microsoft. > >Actually, I have to speak up and disagree with this. One of the main >reasons I would love to move to ReactOS is to get rid of all that stuff. We need to appeal to a wide audience, who all have different preferences on how to do common tasks. I think we need to at least attempt to accomodate them all. > > Let's use preprocessor directives (e.g. #ifndef _LEAN_EXPLORER) to disable > > extended functionality in explorer. This way we can maintain one codebase > > to create > >Ick. In my experience preprocessor directives result in code that falls >apart. It's funny, I used to think MS tried too hard to put every feature under the sun in their OS, but after reading discussions like this, I realize the conundrum they were in. I suggest we build several explorers, the explorer shell should have the SDI approach with an optional directroy tree pane, a winfile style shell with an MDI interface, and a filezilla shell with a tab interface. Then we let the users decide which shell they like. >_______________________________________________ >ros-general mailing list >ros-general(a)reactos.com >http://reactos.com/mailman/listinfo/ros-general Rex Jolliff rex(a)lvcm.com ReactOS (www.reactos.com) -- Check it out

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Re: utility/shellclasses.cpp:275 E_ACCESSDENIED - WIN32 access denied error
by Martin Fuchs 15 Feb '04

15 Feb '04

It's already in Bugzilla: http://reactos.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=185 Regards, Martin -- Martin Fuchs martin-fuchs(a)gmx.net GMX ProMail (250 MB Mailbox, 50 FreeSMS, Virenschutz, 2,99 EUR/Monat...) jetzt 3 Monate GRATIS + 3x DER SPIEGEL +++ http://www.gmx.net/derspiegel +++

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[BUG] utility/shellclasses.cpp:275 E_ACCESSDENIED - WIN32 access denied error
by 20194562＠mail.baskent.edu.tr 14 Feb '04

14 Feb '04

Hi, this is my first post to list. I run ReactOS 0.2 final, in VMWare 4.0.2 build-5592 Installation was successful and booted the ReactOS. while trying with menus, when i come on Settings~Printers menu, i get an error: ShellClasses COM Exception E_ACCESS_DENIED - win32 access denied error Context: ShellFolder::ShellFolder(IShellFolder*,LPCITEMIDLIST) Location: utility/shellclasses.cpp:275 i use a dell latitude d600 laptop, current vmware host is Windows XP If anybody can give me more information about providing debug information, i will post it. Hüseyin

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Ros-general February 2004