Ros-general February 2004

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License issue with OpenSSL and ReactOS (GPL)
by Steven Edwards 23 Feb '04

23 Feb '04

Hello, I am out of development for a few weeks but I have some ideas about using OpenSSL in ReactOS but we have one minor show stoppper. The OpenSSL license is not compatible with the GPL so any code that links to OpenSSL is going to need to be either LGPL or GPL with a exception for OpenSSL. We need to use OpenSSL in a few user-space dlls (wininet, rsabase, cryptoapi) and in our implementation of the security subsystem (lsass, ntoskrnl/se, samlib, etc). In the user-space stuff this isnt a issue as nothing is really implemented anyway but in the security subsystem side this may cause a problem because we already have some existing code. Can we license all of ReactOS as GPL and only license those files that directly link to OpenSSL as "GPL+Exception"? The is a problem because OpenSSL uses a BSD style advertising clause that is incompatible with the GPL. Thanks Steven __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want. http://antispam.yahoo.com/tools

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booting ros via network
by Enrico Weigelt 23 Feb '04

23 Feb '04

Hi folks, is it possible to boot reactos via pxe ? or is there a boot floppy image ? cu -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Enrico Weigelt == metux IT services phone: +49 36207 519931 www: http://www.metux.de/ fax: +49 36207 519932 email: contact(a)metux.de cellphone: +49 174 7066481 --------------------------------------------------------------------- -- DSL-Zugang ab 0 Euro. -- statische IP -- UUCP -- Hosting -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------

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Ideas (by Paulo Correa Silva)
by Filip Navara 23 Feb '04

23 Feb '04

As Paulo has problems sending messages to the list, I'm posting his list of ideas here myself. So here is the link: http://www15.brinkster.com/nitrofurano/reactos/ - Filip

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Re: [ros-general] unacceptable behavior in the forums--we may needaforum moderator
by rené Tournois 23 Feb '04

23 Feb '04

Might be the low quality of my english vocabulary, but i do not know what difference you are doing between "censoring" and "moderating"... About "opinions", i think i have been a very good example that this is _not_ possible. Betov. At 09:59 23/02/2004 +0100, you wrote: >any official message board MUST be moderated. >Censorship is bad, as long as its the opinions you censor, if its the language >its fine. People should be allowed to have their opinion, but they must >express it in a civil manner. > >So i wote for moderation. > >Sincerly >Tobias Ussing > >On Monday 23 February 2004 09:59, rené Tournois >> >>[...] >> >> Though on my own RosAsm Board, i am in favour of a "zero sensorship" rule, >> for a Board like ReactOS one, keeping completely free from war threads is >> a must. There is no limit to what the Anti-Gpl guys are able to do. >> >> Also, forcing to registration would be much more frustrating, IMHO, than >> deleting offending and WW3 threads. >> >> >> Betov. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ros-general mailing list >> ros-general(a)reactos.com >> http://reactos.com/mailman/listinfo/ros-general > >_______________________________________________ >ros-general mailing list >ros-general(a)reactos.com >http://reactos.com/mailman/listinfo/ros-general > >

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unacceptable behavior in the forums--we may need a forum moderator
by Wierd Wierd 23 Feb '04

23 Feb '04

I was cruising the forums a little bit ago, and came across some rather unpleasant postings by some of our users. It would be in our best interests to clean them up promptly, as their disrespect to people with honest questions reflects poorly on our developers, and the project as a whole. There may be more, but I found the derogatory postings in the 'Please...' thread, and the "Blue screen of death" thread. I hope this is an isolated incident, but if it keeps up, we may have to have a dedicated forum moderator to keep things civil in there. Some people just dont know how to be nice to each other. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want. http://antispam.yahoo.com/tools

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RE: [ros-general] License issue with OpenSSL and ReactOS (GPL)
by Hey Matthew 22 Feb '04

22 Feb '04

I've only used the OpenSSL (ironically in a 32bit DLL, called via thunking from a 16bit app...) but there is another project GnuTLS. http://www.gnu.org/software/gnutls/gnutls.html Obviously this is GPL, but I don't know much about this project. -----Original Message----- From: Steven Edwards [mailto:steven_ed4153@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, 23 February 2004 10:29 a.m. To: ros-general(a)reactos.com Subject: [ros-general] License issue with OpenSSL and ReactOS (GPL) Hello, I am out of development for a few weeks but I have some ideas about using OpenSSL in ReactOS but we have one minor show stoppper. The OpenSSL license is not compatible with the GPL so any code that links to OpenSSL is going to need to be either LGPL or GPL with a exception for OpenSSL. We need to use OpenSSL in a few user-space dlls (wininet, rsabase, cryptoapi) and in our implementation of the security subsystem (lsass, ntoskrnl/se, samlib, etc). In the user-space stuff this isnt a issue as nothing is really implemented anyway but in the security subsystem side this may cause a problem because we already have some existing code. Can we license all of ReactOS as GPL and only license those files that directly link to OpenSSL as "GPL+Exception"? The is a problem because OpenSSL uses a BSD style advertising clause that is incompatible with the GPL. Thanks Steven __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want. http://antispam.yahoo.com/tools _______________________________________________ ros-general mailing list ros-general(a)reactos.com http://reactos.com/mailman/listinfo/ros-general This communication is confidential and may contain privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient you must not use, disclose, copy or retain it. If you have received it in error please immediately notify me by return email and delete the emails. Thank you.

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Booting problem: ROS hangs up after disks check
by Kyryll A Mirnenko 22 Feb '04

22 Feb '04

I've tried ROS binaries 0.2.0, but found it hans up after checking the drives in the blue-screen stage. Binaries're unpacked into C:\reactos with enough free space (though pagefile takes only 200k), 128M RAM (ROS found only 64M), PII-compartible Celeron. Hard disk is the only one in the system and has 3 partitions: FAT32 C:, FAT32 D: and UFS (FreeBSD) hidden from WinME (which is on drive C:). I've got 2 variants, but can't test them, so need your expert opinion: 1). Though ROS hangs up after checking C:, then D:, suppose it's confused by UFS partition (which is the last in the disk layout). 2). The HD isn't so old (5 years), but is DMA-less (supports PIO4 max., while ATAPI v4). The thing that it was critical for my FreeBSD 4.9 kernel, which panics & reboots the system if not manually configured not to use DMA (while 4.5 kernel could fall back to PIO mode...). So if you know what's the problem or, even more, know the solution, reply.

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ros 0.2.1 RC1
by jh 21 Feb '04

21 Feb '04

Hi, Is the following error message to do with something that is not yet implemented and should it be ignored. KMODE_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED Where should programmes be put in the Reactos directory ? I have put a text editor called 2xEditor into the bin directory, I have then been able to run it in ros from the start button and then the run program button. I have been able to save a file from it's file save menu, but when I tried to save additions to the file, ros died with the above message. The saved file was found to be empty. I can also save a file in windows notepad with it's file save menu. There is a noticable inprovement from the last release (0.2.0) Regards, jh

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Translators ARE needed (HTML email)
by Aleksey Bragin 20 Feb '04

20 Feb '04

Hello, the time for ReactOS website to become multilanguage is coming, and actually is rather near :-) So, to start, we need to gather a team of translators for every language. As an initial attempt, I searched the ReactOS maillist archives, and found the following people are (were?) willing to do the ReactOS translation. Here is the list: Name Languages E-Mail Rick Langschultz 1) French absleadcoder(a)cox.net 2) Spanish 3) Irish Gaelic 4) Manx Gaelic Mikhail Y. Zvyozdochkin Russian mzvyozd(a)narod.ru Waldo Alvarez Spanish wac(a)ghost.matcom.uh.cu Alexander Ciobanu 1) Romanian alex(a)prodidactica.md 2) Russian Filip Navara Czech xnavara(a)volny.cz Bjorn Fischer German thebear80(a)gmx.net Mark IJbema Dutch mark(a)ijbema.xs4all.nl Lorenzo Italian garbage(a)loz.it mtg Japanese mtg(a)ce.wakwak.com tmtsac(a)hotmail.com Oliwer French oliwer(a)free.fr This list is a very preliminary one, since actually I haven't asked anyone from this list if he really wants to do the translation now, except for Oliwer, who already sent me an email regarding his English -> French translation skills. If anyone has changed their mind since they post to ros-general/ros-kernel --- let me know, and I will remove you from this list. So far we have this (hope line wrap doesn't harm this, in any case I will repost the updated versions of these tables in a better format later): Czech Dutch French Gaelic (Irish) Gaelic (Manx) German Italian Japanese Romanian Russian Spanish Navara IJbema Oliwer Langschultz Langschultz Fischer Lorenzo mtg Ciobanu Bragin Langschultz (GvG ?) Langschultz Ciobanu Zvyozdochkin We have a good situation in Dutch (IJbema can translate, and GvG can approve --- ? ), French, and Russian (we may have even another man here - Semyon Novikov) languages. But certainly for a start, at least one people per language is enough, though two are highly preferable. I will post translation rules and guideline here later, and actually I am going to start preparing the stuff for translation. With the best regards, Aleksey Bragin.

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why folks
by Enrico Weigelt 20 Feb '04

20 Feb '04

Hi folks, a very general question: why are you developing a completely new kernel instead of using an existing one like linux or hurd and running reactos just as a subsystem, perhaps with some kernel improvements. For example: linux brings very good memory management and filesystem. If you want to use Xwindow, you can use a direct graphics backend for the UI. Console applications could run directly on stdio as all unix console applications do. Doing so lets you run the windows applications within a another host operating system and integrating both together. So what are the advantages of another own kernel against a subsystem in another host operating system ? cu -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Enrico Weigelt == metux IT services phone: +49 36207 519931 www: http://www.metux.de/ fax: +49 36207 519932 email: contact(a)metux.de cellphone: +49 174 7066481 --------------------------------------------------------------------- DSL-Zugang ab 0 Euro. -- statische IP -- DSL-Flatfrate -- Diese Mail wurde mit UUCP versandt. http://www.metux.de/uucp/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------

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