Hi Ciobanu
There's no list and I don't think that there should be one. The
Windows
DDK is the place to look for APIs that need tests for the kernel mode
regression tests, and the SDK for the WINE tests. These tests should
first be written under Windows so that we can verify our compliance
with
the APIs.
Cheers
Jason
Ciobanu Alexander wrote:
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Hi Ciobanu
There is already some documentation on kernel/subsystem regression
tests. This part of ReactOS is not swappable with WINE, but covers
drivers, overall stability of the OS and of course the win32
subsystem.
You can find a doc here:
http://reactos.com/reactos_unified_library/reactos_developer_documentation/…
Missing from the doc is an explanation of how to load these tests
under
Windows to confirm results, this is still in the pipeline.
Of course, WINE tests are equally as important. The great thing about
these tests are that we can share work with the WINE project, and we
should be making more use of them because there are already many
tests
written. Steven, perhaps you could write a doc on this subject for
the
Library?
Thanks
Jason
Ciobanu Alexander wrote:
>Pe data de Vineri 23 Ianuarie 2004 21:39, Steven Edwards a scris:
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>
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>Then, there should be set a compatible framework and create some
sort of
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>documentation on this, for people like me, that could help with
this, but are
>
>not aware of wine "code style". I think you should set up a list of
regtests
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>to be done and hopefully someone( consider me in ) could do this
job.
>
>
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>>--- Jason Filby <jasonfilby(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>>What we really do need is an organized group of individuals
writing
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>>>regression tests. This is not as hard as writing code for ReactOS
>>>
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>>>itself
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>>>- but still very important. When code is modified it very likely
>>>
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>>>introduces new bugs that may not be immediately obvious - we need
>>>
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>>>regression tests to keep this in check. There is a framework, but
>>>
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>>>there's a ton of work to be done.
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>>Yes we also need to make sure we dont spend years rewritting tests
that
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>
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>>already exist in the WINE regression test suite. We need to make
some
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>>minor changes to our regression suite to allow for people to write
WINE
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>>style regression tests for Win32 componates so we can share code
and
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>>dump most of the existing tests in reactos/apps/tests.
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>>Steven
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Hi all
On the topic of testing and testing teams:
We really don't need an organized group of individuals looking for
bugs
just yet. The bugs are more than obvious to the developers - and
people
who try out ReactOS don't exactly hold back when they notice
something
not working properly.
What we really do need is an organized group of individuals writing
regression tests. This is not as hard as writing code for ReactOS
itself
- but still very important. When code is modified it very likely
introduces new bugs that may not be immediately obvious - we need
regression tests to keep this in check. There is a framework, but
there's a ton of work to be done.
Cheers
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Sorry I have been short on time to follow up on some of my committed
projects with winmm, setupapi and the shell32 merges.
I have had 2 security audits to do, A exchange server and a VPN go down
and my regular work load before Wineconf so I will still be a little
scarce for a few days.
Thanks
Steven
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I did some testing, and the Winzip self extracting files work under ReactOS, they extract everything...
and Winamp 0.96 run under ReactOS... the right click fuctionality doesn't work yet... the earlier versions of Winamp I tried also work even 0.2, but the menus don't work.
but this is great that we have some real Windows apps running under ReactOS :)
All,
Steven Edwards, Mark Tempel, Art Yerkes, and I will be attending
WineConf 1/31-2/1. One or more of us will be presenting about ReactOS
on Sunday morning. We're going to start work on a presentation soon,
and in preparation, I'd like to have links or e-mail of any screenshots
that you think look nice for the presentation. Also, any suggestions,
hints, etc., would be appreciated.
Thanks.
-Vizzini
Hi peoples.
I'm newbie in this list.
A few days ago, i wrote "manual browser" on cmd.exe script. (UNIX man-like)
I wrote him on NT and optimize it for OS/2. But ROS 0.2rc1's cmd.exe don't
understand some NT's cmd.exe comands. (such as setlocal)
I will rewrite "man" in near future, but why ROS cmd don't have full
compatibility with NT cmd?
p.s Anybody want to write some man-pages? ;)
--
Best Reagrds.
Tappak.
Sorry for my english.
I'm just a russian student.
Hiya,
> We've also, we hope, set the stage for a major new Wine
> related initiative - we hope to encourage lots of ISVs
> to certify their apps against Wine.
Yes this is REALLY needed but.....
> The rationale for this is pretty simple - apps won't run
> on Wine as well as they do on Windows until developers start
> testing against Wine. They've got to start somewhere - we're
> trying to give them that beginning.
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> We're obviously also hoping that this will help us to continue
> funding the work we've been able to do on Wine so far. As much
> of a struggle as it's been at times, we really feel lucky that
> we've been able to do so much. We hope that these initiatives
> will give us an extra little boost so we can help push Wine
> over the hump.
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> I sincerely believe that the day when we can honestly tell people
> "It will most likely work nicely on Wine" is not long off.
.....depends on what happens at Wineconf.....
> At any rate, this is a brand new initiative for us; call it
> an 0.1.7 release. We're very open to comments and thoughts
> and suggestions, so I would greatly appreciate any public
> or private comments you have to make.
For all of this to happen WINE Must....Be....Stable. Are we going to
see 0.9 tagged as the main event at Wineconf 2004? Until we have a WINE
1.x I dont think we are going to see this in large numbers. Once 1.x
happens and our regression testing system is filled with unit tests it
will make vendors jump on board.
All in all I think its a great idea from the ReactOS side as I have
been putting out feelers to ISVs Q&A people and they have no problem
adding ReactOS to the already bloated list of Windows versions they
have to test apps for. If this is going to really happen though we must
have a stable WINE sooner rather than later.
Thanks
Steven
PS. The goal 95% of all Windows apps on crossover is nice but I am
afraid I am seeing more and more .Nyet apps out in the real world. For
this to happen anytime soon we have to get on the ball with Mono and Windows.Forms.
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This ISO is now available via reactos.com/sourceforge.net.
Cheers
Jason
Ge van Geldorp wrote:
>Since the RC1 .iso was removed from SourceForge (it contained a
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